# Altitude acquires Acctual, bringing invoicing and bill pay into one operating account Stabledash Live, a Stabledash show. Oct 12, 2026. Atikh Bana. https://live.stabledash.com/shows/the-live-show/episodes/altitude-acquires-acctual-how-invoicing-goes-global-from-one-CfV-rGt3x0U The deal shipped a working invoicing product on day one, and both founders see it as a step toward financial operations that run as automated loops. Altitude has acquired Acctual, a platform that brought invoicing and bill pay into one operating account for stablecoin businesses across more than sixty countries. The deal shipped a working invoicing product on day one. The launch is the Altitude (invoicing product). ## Invoicing live on day one The Altitude (invoicing product) lets businesses bring their own brand and their client's brand into each invoice. Atikh Bana says the team tries "to pull in as much information and enrich these invoices as as possible." He calls the approach the reverse of death by a thousand cuts: "life by a thousand delights." ## Money in, money out Stepan Simkin says financial operations come down to "receiving money and sending money." He describes Altitude as three parts: a programmable core that is largely on chain, a compliance and PSP layer, and a workflow layer. He says customers from over 60 countries now use the platform, and over half a billion dollars in payment volume has moved through it. ## Squads infrastructure underneath Stepan says Squads Multisig is now treated as infrastructure rather than only a product. He says the Squads smart account infrastructure handles more than ten billion dollars in stablecoin volume on Solana, and that Squads Protocol hit an all-time high in stablecoin volume a month ago. Parts of Grid now serve as the back end for Altitude, which he says helped solve compliance and payment routing faster. He expects Fuse to connect more closely with Altitude in the short to mid term. ## Design as the differentiator Stepan Simkin argues that AI has brought visual design "to somewhat of a baseline," so the little things and thoughtfulness now set teams apart. Atikh Bana advises early founders to hire a top designer even when that person costs several times the median, because they help shape the product experience. ## Contracts that write invoices Atikh Bana says invoicing today is mostly transcription work. In the near term, he wants signed contracts to create invoices on their own, for example "the moment a contract gets executed" through DocuSign or a similar tool, with the human role narrowed to review and approval. The two founders' plans follow one idea. If business finance comes down to receiving and sending money, as Stepan Simkin puts it, then the goal is automated loops where both run in the background until someone signs off. ## Key takeaways 1. Altitude has acquired Acctual, bringing invoicing and bill pay into one operating account for stablecoin businesses across more than sixty countries. 2. The Altitude (invoicing product) launched on day one and automatically pulls in branding and details for both the sender and the client. 3. Atikh Bana says invoicing is mostly transcription work and expects signed contracts to trigger invoices on their own, with people only reviewing and approving. ## Chapters - 0:00 Acctual acquisition closes with invoicing live on Altitude - 2:00 Invoicing launches today and Acctual users have until month end - 3:14 Business needs reach past invoicing into a full operating account - 8:24 Founders need endurance, chosen skills and conviction in their market - 11:14 Design taste now sets teams apart because AI raised baselines - 16:52 Invoices auto-enrich branding to add small delights - 19:47 Altitude's year: 60 countries, $500M volume, three layers - 22:42 Squads products serve as infrastructure underneath Altitude - 25:51 Signed contracts should create invoices automatically ## Transcript **Atikh Bana** (0:00) The new core for the next era of finance. **Host** (0:09) I gotta hit up the confetti. **Host** (0:11) I was between confetti and money cannon. I wasn't sure which one to go with. Crowd shear. What other sound effects we have? Applause. What's going on, guys? Thanks for coming on today. What a day. Thanks for having us. It's it's out in the wild. How long has this been, like, brewing? I know... I mean, Stefan, we've talked to you how many times in the past six months, and you've kind of always, you know, alluded and kind of there's been hints at what's coming. How does it feel to have this out in the wild and and, you know, to have invoicing finally live on Altitude? **Stepan Simkin** (0:45) It feels amazing. It feels great to, you know, finally talk about it, and, you know, to actually talk about it on Stable Dash. So we're obviously big fans of the show. Yeah. It's been brewing for a couple months, and I think it's been probably brewing for longer in in this kinda, like, somewhere in our minds maybe, you know, kinda way before. But... Because we've known Atik and the team for a very long time, and it's always been, you know, somewhere at the back of my mind. Maybe there... There's a, you know, way we can make it happen in the future. And I always enjoyed, you know, just sharing knowledge and and experience and what what it feels like to build financial services type products on top of the stablecoin system. And now we finally made it happen. So I'm very, very excited. And I don't know. I think maybe... How long has it been for you? **Atikh Bana** (1:30) Yeah. I mean, definitely always been big admirers of of Altitude. And, yeah, I guess we've been kinda chatting on and off for the last few years. But, yeah, definitely, last few months, we... A lot more headway in kind of that convergence, **Host** (1:45) and, yeah, really excited about what this is now and it being live with the announcement, which is really exciting too. Yeah. I was gonna say you don't normally get these kind of two for ones, the the acquisition, and then it's boom. Product's live. You tell you've been working. So, wait, what's kind of... What does this transition phase start to look like for you, Atik? I love the video you guys put together, by the way, of just, like, what does this mean for the team? Yeah. Bring us into kind of this transition phase. What launched with Altitude today? And then maybe if anybody happens to be using actual, what does that mean for them? Totally. Totally. So I think a few people are using actual, **Host** (2:20) looks like. **Atikh Bana** (2:21) Nice. Well, thank you all for any actual, and excited according over at Altitude as well. But, yeah, in terms of what launched today, it's it's the invoicing product. It should feel, you know, hopefully, the the good parts of what actual was in... Inside of Altitude. So ability to kinda manage your your customers, send out those invoices, you know, be able to accept payments in a variety of ways, and then have them settle in your in your operating account in Altitude. But more to come there from kind of a recurring invoicing perspective and just a lot more from an automation perspective as well, which we're starting to get a lot more feedback around from users. And in terms of what this means for sort of the actual users today, we will continue to support them through the end of the month. And so just asking users that, you know, maybe they can, you know, close out any outstanding invoices, especially since kind of payment links and etcetera will no longer be **Host** (3:14) upgrading by the end of the month as well. And, hopefully, that gives you enough time to get set up in Altitude and the team's here to support in any way that they can in making that a smooth transition as well. Help us understand because this is... And, Atik, I can remember us having conversations, you know, I think almost two years ago now of, you know, stablecoins to euros and euros to dollars and just a different flow of funds. And I know it was it was always a pain point. Where where does the lot... Where is the line between an invoicing APAR platform and a true banking platform? Like And I said, you alluded to this in your video that there was just feature requests that you're just like... At this stage, like, it felt like you probably weren't just an invoicing platform. Like, why does it make sense then to partner with Altitude? And, like, so what are the what are the nuances that on the surface, they look simple but are just way more than what an a... An APAR platform is? **Atikh Bana** (4:04) For sure. I mean, one of the reasons why we'd chosen to just go really deep on just invoicing and bill pay was to just have that depth and be able to think about that problem with just a ton of intensity and build kind of the best product experience around that. But at the same time, you know, what we started to learn through that experience is that users have more needs. Right? Like, there's only so many invoices that a business may send or so many bills that they may have to pay, but they may be swiping a card more regularly. They may be doing more treasury movements on a more regular basis. And so if we just think about that financial, like, workflow from a business's perspective, like, how do we pass the tooth... Pass the toothbrush test? Right? Like, how do we make a product that just has a lot more kind of functionality and utility for a business on a day to day? And, ultimately, just a lot more sort of attention from that perspective too. And so and that's definitely one part of it. And the second is just sort of, yeah, what that experience into being. Now they no longer have to manage, you know, this entire stack across. What we talk about of FinOps today is sort of this impossible puzzle. Right? You're constantly trying to stitch together. And so I think that's just really exciting. And to be able to kinda do that with the level of depth that we would like to is certainly a lot harder when, you know, we are this... The team size that we are and... **Host** (5:20) Yeah. So on. Stefan, when you when you think about this acquisition, what what is now possible, you have customers and users like StableDash who who have... Who are actively using this platform. Like, what is now going to be possible with the the the actual team coming in house and helping build this? Like, what what is now possible that wasn't possible before? What are you most excited about **Stepan Simkin** (5:45) that is now available? So, obviously, we can talk about how deep we are now able to go into, you know, accounts receivable, accounts payable workflows. The the guys at Actuals have spent many years figuring out how to really get this right. And I think their expertise and experience is is just invaluable, and I think that is definitely, you know, you're you're gonna see how that sort of translates into the experience in Altitude. But I think at the same time, when when we spend time with Achik and the team, it it really felt like, you know, the the the care and the level of crap that they've put into the software, and and how deeply they thought about all the workflows and kind of all the flows that really need to need to be there. It it gets me, I think, the most excited about just the potential of taking Altitude as a product further together with with Atik and the team. Right? And I think we we talked a bunch about where we can take this in a in in kind of more agentic world, and how essentially a lot of these kind of financial operations should be automated loops that you kind of run, you know, somewhere in the back end, and you don't really need to worry about as a as a human operator. And so I think all of this is now really coming together, and, you know, with with the actual team joining Altitude, it it just accelerates that vision. And then obviously, the the the possibilities in terms of where we can go, even purely in the sort of accounts receivable, accounts payable space, also that is, you know, sort of insurmountable. Because at the end of the day, and I also mentioned this in in my post as we were talking about the... In the announcement, is that if you distill kind of the nature of what businesses really do for the most part when they're, you know, kinda managing their financial operations, it's all about receiving money and sending money. Right? And that really obviously maps to accounts payable, accounts receivable. So even within that context, obviously, there there there's crazy possibilities. And then I think, you know, there's also... Altitude is a is a is a truly global operating account. Right? Like, one of the core ideas behind the product is that we're able to connect all these different local digital payment systems, and really kind of onboard companies from a 150 countries all over the world, essentially. And so there's a lot of interesting problems and and and things we have to solve, whether it's kind of localization, whether it's connecting to different ERP systems. And so I think with with actual team joining us, now that feels like we, you know, we can actually make it happen a lot faster. And that just makes me a lot more excited about, you know, the prospects of getting Altitude to this kind of end state that we're all envisioning, you know, at a much shorter time frame than than before. Yeah. **Host** (8:24) Atik, I'd love to just unpack a little bit more of your entrepreneurial journey. I remember one of our early conversations. Rich background at Stripe, heavily influenced, you know, how you think about design, how you think about building a company. And when we think about kind of these entrepreneurial paths, there's, like, three big milestones. You either sell your company, you either... You IPO, or you fundraise. You've kinda checked a few of those boxes. So what would your advice be to maybe an earlier founder that's starting a company? Where do you start to carve out your lane, and where do you maybe choose to go narrow and deep versus broad? And maybe we can go in after this into kind of what you alluded to, Steph, in kind of the the future. Start painting the picture of what some of these, you know, agentic oriented **Atikh Bana** (9:07) invoicing processes look like. Yeah. I mean, it's it's definitely something that requires a lot of of self reflection and kind of what you're most kind of passionate about or what drives you. So I think, ultimately, at the end of the day, this journey is one that will require you to be excited every day as you're chewing glass kind of building a business. And so, you know, it's different from a job where, you know, you can sort of get that instant gratification where there's a manager telling you that you did a good job or, you know, whatever else. And so it's like, you know, do you have that ability to still, you know, have that intense excitement and and and sort of discipline that keep going even when there will be long periods of, I mean, not so exciting times? So I think that's just one thing to kind of think about in terms of, like, going down a journey from an entrepreneurial perspective. And two, I think where where are you most excited about how you work? Like, do you have specific skill sets that you you don't want to kind of pursue on a more regular basis? You know, for me, that's design. You know, I I love the ability to, like, build really great product experiences. And, you know, sometimes when you're building a company, there are a lot of other things that require your attention that maybe take your focus away from that. And so maybe thinking about how you wanna spend your time on a day to day as well. And I think three, like, just conviction in the product area or the opportunity at large. Like, do you feel like this can't happen without you? There's just something about it that you're just so intensely kinda passionate about that you need to pursue. And I think for us, you know, just kind of really thinking about financial operations at at the time and stablecoins and, you know, it feeling like there's just so much to kind of unpack there. And while there's a lot happening from kind of an infrastructure perspective, there's still so much to to uncover from kind of the the process and workflow. And so... And that's something that really moved us really early and made us wanna pursue that. But I think that this is still very much an entrepreneurial journey for us building inside of Altitude, and so I'm certainly excited to sort of be entrepreneur internally. And I think most companies, you think like an owner as well nonetheless. But, yeah, I guess those are a couple thoughts. Steph, can you speak to design? **Host** (11:14) And what about the actual team from a design standpoint stood out to you? I know that that's a very important piece to how you think about altitude and and the business you're trying to build is how it feels and how it looks. And I just want... It's funny because we... Zach didn't know this was happening, and he... We we got a ping from the Altitude team. Like, hey. Do you do you have an acquisition coming up? And Zach, I think, guessed that, oh, is it actual because of the design? In my view, it's like the design standards and the standards for excellence that both brands have almost feel at a at a bar that very few are at, I would say, in our space. How does the the idea of design play into this and and it making sense to bring them in? You know, I think **Stepan Simkin** (12:05) it used to be very easy to understand, you know, who in the market has taste and who actually has a good sense for design and craft and who doesn't. I think AI kinda brought everything to somewhat of a baseline. Right? Like, think everybody can have a pretty good kind of visual design, visual language now just because you can kinda go to these tools that kind of can replicate all of the tropes. Right? And and kinda give you that experience. And so it really becomes about the the little things and the thoughtfulness that ones... That one actually puts into what, you know, what... What's what's actually a good experience. Right? And and and thinking deeply about how the customer will actually interact with the product, or how you're gonna communicate values of the product in in marketing and other places. And I think it becomes somewhat harder to to kinda distinguish what's what's what's great design, and like what's a great design team versus not. We like to think that we know quite a bit about design. We always really cared about how, you know, things we build essentially look and feel. And we started from a very cryptonative place where there wasn't that much, you know, product or kind of brand design, and like the the the value on on those things was, like, was not really kind of placed, I think, in the right proportion in in the early days of crypto. And I think we... When we started seeing what the actual team was putting out, and the fact that they, you know, laser focused on solving those, you know, accounts receivable workflow in the beginning, and and how deep they went into figuring out what this experience needs to look like, and understanding the subtleties of the user experience, and just how you communicate the values of, you know, the product, and the things that they care about as a team. I think now it's even more paramount to essentially work with people who really get it. And I always felt like Atik and the team actually do. And so it always felt sort of natural to us that, you know, if we're ever to kinda partner in such a way with another team, they they'd have to also kinda carry, you know, similar values when it comes to design and and branding and and user experience. And so that obviously was a... Was something that we we thought of in in the very beginning. And I think it it it... That also makes a lot of sense to us. Right? Like I think when we originally thought of this idea of of kind of partnering partnering up deeply, that definitely wasn't kind of staying in our mind that are we gonna kinda match in in that realm. It was sort of a a given at this point. **Host** (14:35) Totally. Atik, I'd love to understand from your perspective before we dive into more some of the forward looking product features for Altitude. Do you think that this design, especially in the world of AI right now, is this something that could be taught? Is this, like, god given talent? How do you start to develop a... You know, the... This sort of taste? Because, you know, we've obviously experienced this with StableDash. Thank god I have Drew because I do not have that god given talent, but I'm starting to learn little things. You know? But how how do you look at this? How do you... How would... What would your advice be to other young founders, you know, as they're tempted with AI to just, you know, spin something up with Claude? Where do you start kinda honing this skill for design, taste, and brand? **Atikh Bana** (15:17) Yeah. For sure. I mean, I... It's a it's a really great, like, discourse that's happening around this right now. And I think AI definitely helping establish more baselines is good because now, you know, that's a better place for everyone to have more of an equal playing field with regards to it. But I certainly think that taste really just stems from kind of our own personal experiences and, like, trying to let you kinda come through in that as much as possible. Like, what are the things that just make it look like there was a touch of the... Of Drew or Zach and and so and so on and so forth? And I think that's a really important part. And I think as entrepreneurs, it's also a a really strong kinda onus on you to just care about it. I think in the earliest days, I mean, you're you're thinking about other things beyond that, you know, getting the PMF, finding the the first investors, finding the first customers. And so design can really feel like a really not important part of that process, but it's kind of on you to make that choice. It's making that choice to hire that designer that might cost maybe $3.04 x what maybe the the median might be. But knowing that that person will help you reach that goal of kind of what that experience might look like or helping you unlock the taste or kind of mold that you can create with that, you know, brand or product experience. And it might not make sense financially. It might not feel like it'll have, you know, some immediate outcome, but that's okay. And I think that's the choice that founders need to make and and be okay making, that they would prioritize kind of feeling proud about the work more than maybe some of the other things that might be important at some of the earlier **Host** (16:47) stages as well. Wow. That was an amazing answer. **Host** (16:52) So last time we were on the show, I asked for a hidden amounts feature on the dashboard, which I have just now used, which is great. So we're not exposing too much, but I'm I'm just showing the product here. So we have invoices. I know this is gonna evolve and grow and adapt, and you guys weren't planning on me doing this. But I'm just showing this now. So this is really where the the work is gonna live to start. Right? So I can go in here, bill pay, all of... This is kind of the hub for adding customers and being able to manage this natively within within Altitude. Anything to call out here while I'm kind of presenting the product a little bit from either of you? Yeah. I we're I know we're on day one, so I don't know how much has been done yet. **Stepan Simkin** (17:38) I think I think Gohka. I think Gohka. Yeah. No. No. No. Just **Atikh Bana** (17:42) to kind of point out, you know, around taste and and just, like, having perspective. And one of the things that we really love about just, like, the invoice is how you can sort of bring your brand into it and also bring your your client's brand into that. And so I'm not sure if you guys, like, uploaded this, but we try to, like, do this thing where we, like, try to pull in as much information and enrich these invoices as as possible. And so your logo or your your details, and then same for the person you're sending the invoice to as well without you having to lift a finger. So there's, I guess, one part of that is around kinda just the the branding and the experience of that, but the other part is more around the automation as well. I think those are two levers that are just gonna be really important to just continue to pull on and and and really make even stronger. I'm seeing things right now, and I'm like, I can't wait to, you know, make that thing a bit exciting. **Host** (18:28) Well, keep, you think about, like on what that means because we'd love to... Currently, I I use Stripe for our invoices. I don't use Altitude for invoicing. And I've lived in these, like, two separate worlds where I've had to, like, manage that, kinda get recurring payments set up there. Funds hit Altitude separately. So having this all live in one place, I'm excited for. **Host** (18:49) Yeah. Well, it's like, you know, we have some features. Shout out to Andre, our engineer. Like, he's built these into the platform where we can, like, put our... Put the website in and then, you know, brings in logos, whether that's tokens. And so I think we can relate to that where it's like those little features that, again, doesn't... We can't prove any ROI or or any, you know, revenue from these these little fun features in the studio. But what does that do for just, you know, how people think about the experience coming on the show, especially with some really early stage teams that are like, I've never seen my logo, you know, pop up on the screen like that before. So it's it's... It is a lot of fun. So props to you guys. I know that it's a really... Again, it's one of those little things that just makes it feel more personal. **Atikh Bana** (19:29) Yeah. There's this concept that we hear a lot of, like, death by a thousand cuts in in product experience, and I feel like... And that if you flip that, it's life by a thousand delights. And so I think something that **Host** (19:41) we'll try to do more of. Good spin. Yeah. That was that brick by brick, man. Step, we'll let you close it as you think about the future of of this acquisition and also just, like, closing the year well. You guys have had a massive year. I think when we first connected with you guys, you were... You know, either had just finalized the raise or were kind of going through that, and we were at breakpoint in Abu Dhabi. Just, like, thinking back to that, so much has happened. Like, how do you... How are you feeling as you... As Altitude closes the year? And even now, we're we're preparing for the the token super cycle in London and Breakpoint again. Like, so much is happening. How are you feeling about the year at... Year end? I'm feeling really good. I think it's been, **Stepan Simkin** (20:25) yeah, it's been the year when we actually kinda got Altitude out there and started re onboarding a lot of customers globally. There's now customers from over 60 countries on the platform. There has been over 500,000,000 in payment volume moved through the platform. And so I think there's a lot of these signs that we were looking for to to really feel like we're kind of moving in the right direction, and and really excited. I would say when you're building Altitude, there's like three core components. There's this kind of the programmable core. So a lot of it is on chain, and we constantly have to kinda think about the different, you know, security aspects, different policies we introduce, and kind of this very foundational layer that in the end actually, you know, controls the movement of funds and the custody of funds. Then there's this kind of the the compliance and PSP layer, right, where we constantly need to evolve and add different payment providers, add different currencies, different payment rails. And then there's the workflow layer, right, essentially what kind of exists on top of those two... Of the the other two that allows you to do things with with the with the assets in the account. And so I think we're kind of moving gradually across all these three verticals, and it's it's going probably as as well as I I would have expected. And I think now with the actual team joining us, even just really going deep on accounts receivable and solving it at at global scale, right, when you have to think about multiple currencies, multiple payment rails, down the line multiple languages. Right? I think all of that is... Like, even that alone is a great undertaking, which hasn't really been kinda done before at this, like, level of global scale. And then going into accounts payable and essentially allowing agents to take a lot more control over how you run your business from a finance perspective. I think all of that is is very exciting. And I don't really think in terms of calendar years as much as I think about, you know, cycles and engineering cycles and essentially the, you know, the projects we're we're running. Right? So there's so many things happening at the same time. And, you know, I I I think we're... I think we're we're doing it exactly the right way and and exactly the way that I would have imagined. I have one last more kinda I was rushing. **Host** (22:42) You go you go first, and then I I do have one more for them. Full time... You know, when we think about squads. Right? I mean, so if someone's if someone's followed along your journey, like, this feels like a new chapter, maybe even a new book. Right? There's such this rich product suite within the squads ecosystem right now. How would you start to divide that? How are you looking at this now from a from a leader? It feels like, at least from our perspective, that Altitude has consumed more and more of our mindshare when we think about squads. How do you think about these other arms of the business, the the treasury products, grids? You had Fuze for a while. Are those still alive and vibrant? Are you feel... Do you feel like that you wanna lean more and more in altitude because there's just... It just fits? How How do you how do you look about squads? Well, let's think about squads holistically right now. I think one of the things we realized at some point is that **Stepan Simkin** (23:36) we always felt like squads protocol was the infrastructure, and then squads multisig in the early days was the product. And one important realization was that Squad's Multisig is also infrastructure. Right? So it it really kind of exists behind the scenes, and we... Like, the the go to market motions for it are very different. And the things we need to do to kinda keep multisig in, you know, at the growth pace it has been for the last, you know, couple years are also very different. And, you know, we recently had an all time high just a month ago of just stable coin volume flowing through through squads. And I think right now, we're at sort of a 10,000,000,000 plus in annualized payment volume or stable coin transfer volume flowing through the infrastructure. So I think from that perspective, there's a lot of things that are happening behind the scenes. And I think just different products require different go to market motions. I think Grid and and Fuse kind of exist in in in sort of a separate world, in in a sense where Grid is now... Like, a lot of parts of Grid are now essentially the back end and kind of the core infrastructure for Altitude. And so that, you know, combining those experiences actually really allowed us to move much faster with Altitude and solve a lot of those problems on the compliance side and the payment routing side. And that's been incredibly helpful in in kind of propelling Altitude to where it is today in in in just essentially half a year. And I think with Fuse, we're obviously, you know, actively supporting it, actively maintaining it. And I think down the line, or actually in in maybe somewhat sort of short to midterm, you'll see sort of the FUSE experience connect a lot more with Altitude and become this kind of personal, you know, useful counterpart to the Altitude experience as well. So I think it's all coming together. And I think obviously, context switching is is is is a thing. And that's something I have to deal with on a somewhat regular basis. But at the end of the day, every altitude account is a squad multisig somewhere deep down. And I think from that perspective, there's of a lot of synergy, and it all feels to me like they're all kind of parts of a greater whole. And I think that's exactly... Maybe it wasn't exactly as we intended in the beginning, and we couldn't really see all these kind of, you know, steps in advance. But now it all really, really makes sense to us. **Host** (25:51) One big happy family. It's cool. It's cool to see these things come together and take different shapes. As we close, Atik, one more question for you because we we mentioned this earlier and just wanted to close the loop on Steph, I'm reading your your tweet from earlier. Autonomous... Like, we were talking about FinOps and operating autonomously and this idea... The idea of, like, loops and approvals and the system that agents are gonna use. It seems like automating these loops is a really important piece to this as you both think about the future here and what got you both excited to go build the future here. Atik, what what is, like... Maybe not an example of this five years from now, but, like, in two months from now, as you guys have some time in your shipping, like, what would an autonomous loop be here that you guys are trying to build toward that a company like ours using Altitude should expect? Yeah. For sure. I mean, one that, **Atikh Bana** (26:50) you know, we thought of pretty recently was the idea that invoicing is transcription work. Like, you are literally sitting down, typing in a customer name, typing in line items, and sending off the invoice. But that information usually lives in some other system, either a contract, maybe it's a Slack message or a Telegram message. And so the ability to be able to, like, pull in that data to create that invoice automatically, and then maybe you can review it and decide if you wanna send it. But just... I think that's one example of eliminating some of that manual work that, you know, is pretty tedious **Host** (27:23) that I'm really excited about. So in the future here, this would be like... What what do you imagine happening? Like, am I Yeah. Is there a chat natively in Altitude, or how do you imagine this? Yeah. For sure. I mean, maybe it's the moment a contract gets executed. Right? And it's connecting to your DocuSign or Iron Cloud or whatever. And moment that happens, the invoices get created, and maybe the one that needs to get Literally, like, backed up because this doesn't exist right now. Like, I have... We just signed a a new sponsor who's floating around the show right now, and, like, I need to invoice them. Haven't done it. The contract's signed. I just like... Like, having this would be so nice. Gosh. DocuSign sucks. So maybe you... If you could build contracting too while you're at it. I hate DocuSign. You can build that too. That'd be great. It's something we've heard about. Build just build it natively. Guys, this has been fun. It's a it's such a gift when, like, we can form relationships. I know we've we've known both of you guys separately in the past and, like, just to be able to be trusted with the day like today and the moment of what you guys are going through and have a chance to break it down a little bit on the show has been really fun. So thanks for bringing us into it. **Host** (28:32) Zach, anything final from from your side? This is fun. Nope. I got my last I got my last question in there previously. Call out next three to six months, more agent, more loops happening. Ping us. We'd love to dive into them. It's becoming... Taking up more and more of our mind share, and I think we're we're crossing the chasm. We wanna see more and more of these these agentic loops come to life and just, you know, break out of that that theoretical bubble. But for asking the both of you guys, and we'll look forward to seeing you in Breakpoint. Some altitude fireworks as we go. See you guys. See you. Thanks, guys.